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	<description>Michael S. Roth became Wesleyan University's 16th president on July 1, 2007.</description>
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		<title>By: George deVries Klein '54</title>
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		<dc:creator>George deVries Klein '54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 17:07:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me add to the previous comment.

It is critical for public credibility that an American university be perceived by society as an "Honest Broker".  It is unclear to me if the Wesleyan Administration, and others in the Wesleyan Community understand this.  Perhaps the hostility towards Wesleyan by the local community may, IN PART, stem from the lack of clarity on the university's public role.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me add to the previous comment.</p>
<p>It is critical for public credibility that an American university be perceived by society as an &#8220;Honest Broker&#8221;.  It is unclear to me if the Wesleyan Administration, and others in the Wesleyan Community understand this.  Perhaps the hostility towards Wesleyan by the local community may, IN PART, stem from the lack of clarity on the university&#8217;s public role.</p>
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		<title>By: George deVries Klein '54</title>
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		<dc:creator>George deVries Klein '54</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 02:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glen Pritzker (Item #7 stated "The town, clearly, has no idea what the University’s mission is..."

After a 33.5 year career as a Professor (Univ. of Pittsburgh, Univ. of Pennsylvania, Univ. of Illinois @ Urbana-Champaign), I have often wondered, since graduating from Wesleyan and working in a variety of unviersities, if the Wesleyan Administration, faculty, students, alumni and Board of Trustees know what the mission of a real university is.  Recent events during the past month raise substantive doubts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glen Pritzker (Item #7 stated &#8220;The town, clearly, has no idea what the University’s mission is&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>After a 33.5 year career as a Professor (Univ. of Pittsburgh, Univ. of Pennsylvania, Univ. of Illinois @ Urbana-Champaign), I have often wondered, since graduating from Wesleyan and working in a variety of unviersities, if the Wesleyan Administration, faculty, students, alumni and Board of Trustees know what the mission of a real university is.  Recent events during the past month raise substantive doubts.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam G</title>
		<link>http://roth.blogs.wesleyan.edu/2008/05/17/disturbing-semesters-end/#comment-7497</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 02:27:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Roth, 

As a Wes alum (01'), I am deeply disturbed by what transpired on Fountain Ave on Thursday night.  Reading the many accounts of students who were maced and bitten by MPD dogs makes me very angry and dissapointed that such a blantent misuse of police authority can happen here in the US.  This type of brutality needs to stop.  Remember, most of the students were over legal age, were in front of their own houses, were not violent, and no police officer was physically threatened.   As the president of Wesleyan, I expect you to issue a strong statement condemning the actions of the MPD and to support any legal action that may occur as a result of this incident.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Roth, </p>
<p>As a Wes alum (01&#8242;), I am deeply disturbed by what transpired on Fountain Ave on Thursday night.  Reading the many accounts of students who were maced and bitten by MPD dogs makes me very angry and dissapointed that such a blantent misuse of police authority can happen here in the US.  This type of brutality needs to stop.  Remember, most of the students were over legal age, were in front of their own houses, were not violent, and no police officer was physically threatened.   As the president of Wesleyan, I expect you to issue a strong statement condemning the actions of the MPD and to support any legal action that may occur as a result of this incident.</p>
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		<title>By: noah</title>
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		<dc:creator>noah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 00:45:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I feel that the Wesleyan student body should apologize to the Middletown Community and the MPD to improve our relations with them. Admitting that we were at fault would actually gain us more respect, while criticizing the police force for 'unnecessary brutality' would only make matters worse.  
When a conflict arises between two groups of people, someone's got to take the initiative and mediate the situation. That "someone" might as well be Wesleyan, since after all the students pride themselves on being assets to the greater community.
President Roth: I'm sure you feel torn right now because you are getting mixed messages. But I strongly wish you would take my advice. I'm actually an incoming freshman, and I'd like to matriculate knowing that the student body is on good terms with the MPD. I will also do my part by not getting overly drunk and disobeying the cops.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I feel that the Wesleyan student body should apologize to the Middletown Community and the MPD to improve our relations with them. Admitting that we were at fault would actually gain us more respect, while criticizing the police force for &#8216;unnecessary brutality&#8217; would only make matters worse.<br />
When a conflict arises between two groups of people, someone&#8217;s got to take the initiative and mediate the situation. That &#8220;someone&#8221; might as well be Wesleyan, since after all the students pride themselves on being assets to the greater community.<br />
President Roth: I&#8217;m sure you feel torn right now because you are getting mixed messages. But I strongly wish you would take my advice. I&#8217;m actually an incoming freshman, and I&#8217;d like to matriculate knowing that the student body is on good terms with the MPD. I will also do my part by not getting overly drunk and disobeying the cops.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben '11</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ben '11</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 May 2008 00:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Roth,
I am appalled at your failure to release a statement that actually indicates an opinion a full four days after the incident. This is a complete outrage, and should be treated as such. Furthermore, as a result of my contempt for the actions you have taken this past year, topped off with this, I am almost certainly going to transfer next year out of fear that you will continue to screw up the school.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Roth,<br />
I am appalled at your failure to release a statement that actually indicates an opinion a full four days after the incident. This is a complete outrage, and should be treated as such. Furthermore, as a result of my contempt for the actions you have taken this past year, topped off with this, I am almost certainly going to transfer next year out of fear that you will continue to screw up the school.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Salisbury</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Salisbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 15:48:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter Salisbury '03
I address this to all.
I was visiting Wesleyan a few years ago and there was a similar problem when students blocked off Main St. to have a party there. It is clear that this was a blatant attempt to provike the police. Luckily nothing happened then. 
This incident also reeks of privileged University grads attempting to provike the police force. If students are told to disburse and don't what are the police to do. Why would the students not leave. They can go anywhere. There were no crowds blocking them in.  I have been in similar situations. If you don't mess with the cops they will not pepper spray you. I just can't believe that people are complaining here. This is not police brutality. This whole situation and its roots (there was no protest here) is shameful. The students who were arrested should be dismissed and President Roth should apologize to the Town. These police brutality claims make a mockery of Rodney King and others. 
Dialogue is not necessary we, as a University were clearly in the wrong, our student broke the law and the Police responded. I wish the parents of those students who were arrested could see a video of how immature their children were acting up until the police acted. Additionally were those students who were arrested tested for blood alcohol content. 
Look, I had plenty of fun at Wesleyan. Too much sometimes, and threw many parties that spilled out into the streets. This is a clear cut case of student picking an unnecessary fight. There is no oppresion here. The cops probably did say stupid stuff but that is what cops do, especially in an intimidating environment. There is resentment but that is a fact of life. The Police are working on Saturday night while the student are drunkenly reveling what would you expect. 

Other Problems. Why does the university not own all the houses on Fountain/Home Avenue. Reality: the University has in the past attempted to purchase them but the slum landlords who own them refuse to sell even at a premium. There is no reason for such town university integration in those places. Ideally there would be peaceful interaction but in reality there will always be loud students and working people trying to sleep.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter Salisbury &#8216;03<br />
I address this to all.<br />
I was visiting Wesleyan a few years ago and there was a similar problem when students blocked off Main St. to have a party there. It is clear that this was a blatant attempt to provike the police. Luckily nothing happened then.<br />
This incident also reeks of privileged University grads attempting to provike the police force. If students are told to disburse and don&#8217;t what are the police to do. Why would the students not leave. They can go anywhere. There were no crowds blocking them in.  I have been in similar situations. If you don&#8217;t mess with the cops they will not pepper spray you. I just can&#8217;t believe that people are complaining here. This is not police brutality. This whole situation and its roots (there was no protest here) is shameful. The students who were arrested should be dismissed and President Roth should apologize to the Town. These police brutality claims make a mockery of Rodney King and others.<br />
Dialogue is not necessary we, as a University were clearly in the wrong, our student broke the law and the Police responded. I wish the parents of those students who were arrested could see a video of how immature their children were acting up until the police acted. Additionally were those students who were arrested tested for blood alcohol content.<br />
Look, I had plenty of fun at Wesleyan. Too much sometimes, and threw many parties that spilled out into the streets. This is a clear cut case of student picking an unnecessary fight. There is no oppresion here. The cops probably did say stupid stuff but that is what cops do, especially in an intimidating environment. There is resentment but that is a fact of life. The Police are working on Saturday night while the student are drunkenly reveling what would you expect. </p>
<p>Other Problems. Why does the university not own all the houses on Fountain/Home Avenue. Reality: the University has in the past attempted to purchase them but the slum landlords who own them refuse to sell even at a premium. There is no reason for such town university integration in those places. Ideally there would be peaceful interaction but in reality there will always be loud students and working people trying to sleep.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 12:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a new resident to Middletown I have no bias against Wesleyan students, so let's get to the facts here. If you are told by your own public safety to clear out and you don't, you have lost the right to complain when local law enforcement arrives at your schools request and takes action. Hopefully you will have learned your lesson and you all go into the future better citizens.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a new resident to Middletown I have no bias against Wesleyan students, so let&#8217;s get to the facts here. If you are told by your own public safety to clear out and you don&#8217;t, you have lost the right to complain when local law enforcement arrives at your schools request and takes action. Hopefully you will have learned your lesson and you all go into the future better citizens.</p>
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		<title>By: Ernest H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ernest H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 02:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>President Roth: I am the father of an incoming freshman, class of 2012.

At this point I doubt if mutual finger-pointing between the police and Wesleyan is going to get much accomplished. Probably more beneficial is to establish healthy and positive channels of communication to the point where the police and the students can agree that there is room for improvement on both sides.

I was present at your address to prospective students and parents on Open House day on October 12, 2007. At that time, one of the audience asked you if you had one wish for Wesleyan University, and your answer was quick and unequivocal. You said that your wish would be to double the University's endowment. As reasonable as that wish sounded at that time, I am wondering if you would rather prefer to update that wish to making establishing better relationships with the Middletown community (including the police) as a top priority.  I think that would make some sense in the light of last weeks events.

For the students my recommendation is that they think seriously about the legacy they leave for future incoming students. To the extent that their actions may leave a trail of resentment in the town and among the police, the legacy they leave to future students will be a troublesome one. This is not a fault-finding point of view, but one that looks at the reality of how emotions become hardened into fixed attitudes: while graduating students take their resentments with them when they leave,  the resentments in the community stay behind to the detriment of new students.

Therefore, for current students, it is a worthwhile exercise to once in a while ask yourself: If I were an incoming student, what kind of atmosphere would I like to find at Wesleyan as far as relations with the surrounding community is concerned?  With this kind of mindset, I am sure that you would want to leave a positive legacy for future students, and I am going to make sure my son understands this.

Thank you, and I still think my son made an excellent decision to come to Wesleyan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>President Roth: I am the father of an incoming freshman, class of 2012.</p>
<p>At this point I doubt if mutual finger-pointing between the police and Wesleyan is going to get much accomplished. Probably more beneficial is to establish healthy and positive channels of communication to the point where the police and the students can agree that there is room for improvement on both sides.</p>
<p>I was present at your address to prospective students and parents on Open House day on October 12, 2007. At that time, one of the audience asked you if you had one wish for Wesleyan University, and your answer was quick and unequivocal. You said that your wish would be to double the University&#8217;s endowment. As reasonable as that wish sounded at that time, I am wondering if you would rather prefer to update that wish to making establishing better relationships with the Middletown community (including the police) as a top priority.  I think that would make some sense in the light of last weeks events.</p>
<p>For the students my recommendation is that they think seriously about the legacy they leave for future incoming students. To the extent that their actions may leave a trail of resentment in the town and among the police, the legacy they leave to future students will be a troublesome one. This is not a fault-finding point of view, but one that looks at the reality of how emotions become hardened into fixed attitudes: while graduating students take their resentments with them when they leave,  the resentments in the community stay behind to the detriment of new students.</p>
<p>Therefore, for current students, it is a worthwhile exercise to once in a while ask yourself: If I were an incoming student, what kind of atmosphere would I like to find at Wesleyan as far as relations with the surrounding community is concerned?  With this kind of mindset, I am sure that you would want to leave a positive legacy for future students, and I am going to make sure my son understands this.</p>
<p>Thank you, and I still think my son made an excellent decision to come to Wesleyan.</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 02:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sorry, but I truly believe that if there were 200+ (underage) drunks blocking a road anywhere that the police would try to break it up peaceful...but if needed they would use force.  What makes you think that Wesleyan students should be treated any differently than anyone else?  There was probably only 5...maybe 10 police at the scene and 200+ people rioting against them.  That is a dangerous situation for those police officers and I think it was within their right to protect themselves.  And you certainly can not say this was unprovoked.  First public safety was called to the scene and they could not handle it and thus called in the police.  Then instead of the student just going else where to party they provoked the officers by throwing bottles at the officers...I am sorry that is a dangerous thing to do as it could seriously injure a person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sorry, but I truly believe that if there were 200+ (underage) drunks blocking a road anywhere that the police would try to break it up peaceful&#8230;but if needed they would use force.  What makes you think that Wesleyan students should be treated any differently than anyone else?  There was probably only 5&#8230;maybe 10 police at the scene and 200+ people rioting against them.  That is a dangerous situation for those police officers and I think it was within their right to protect themselves.  And you certainly can not say this was unprovoked.  First public safety was called to the scene and they could not handle it and thus called in the police.  Then instead of the student just going else where to party they provoked the officers by throwing bottles at the officers&#8230;I am sorry that is a dangerous thing to do as it could seriously injure a person.</p>
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		<title>By: mike wheelock</title>
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		<dc:creator>mike wheelock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 23:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree it is not a valuable exercise in getting into a debate about what happened on this blog

I'm curious if you had already been notified by public safety that there was a problem at 1:30am or that your first word came from students at 2:30am?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree it is not a valuable exercise in getting into a debate about what happened on this blog</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious if you had already been notified by public safety that there was a problem at 1:30am or that your first word came from students at 2:30am?</p>
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